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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotten milk wrote:
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how about queen st., round the cowlairs chord, past springburn station, past sighthill goods, to join up to the caley line through st. rollox (pass) into buchanan st.?

That would involve reversing, which was specified as a no-no.  



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, i thought there was a line from sighthill jn, avoiding the goods depot , then west at st. rollox - i take it, then, that all the lines went into the goods depot?
EDIT: from the 1894 OS map

but zooming in:


it's like the line i need was proposed, but not actually built - the lines are there, but not 'connected' to the main-line on the map.
maybe to avoid facing connections on the main-line?
OR was it a link that existed, but has been taken out of use?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotten milk wrote:
no, i thought there was a line from sighthill jn, avoiding the goods depot , then west at st. rollox - i take it, then, that all the lines went into the goods depot?
EDIT: from the 1894 OS map

but zooming in:


it's like the line i need was proposed, but not actually built - the lines are there, but not 'connected' to the main-line on the map.
maybe to avoid facing connections on the main-line?
OR was it a link that existed, but has been taken out of use?

I don't think those lines were ever built. I may be wrong, but I've never seen
those lines on any other map, and I never saw any evidence of those lines when
I explored the site many moons ago.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found the answer to this conundrum - in 1871 the Caledonian Railway opened a signal box at "Sighthill West Junction", but the book "The Register of Scottish Signalboxes" by Alexander and Nichol, states that the line was never used.  My theory is that the Caledonian and the N.B. entered into an agreement to build a link line to allow N.B trains the use of Buchanan Street during the reconstruction of Queen Street, which took place between 1879 and 1888, but then fell out over working arrangements.  The "Junction that never was" closed in 1934, being replaced by an Intermediate Block Signal Arrangement.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all - I have started a project to map the closed railways in Glasgow, using as a basis a table found on the web and thankfully saved as an Excel spreadsheet as the site is no longer active. There are several lines listed that are somewhat obscure, as they refer to mineral or industrial lines. Two examples are as follows, both are in the Anniesland/Knightswood area on the branch to Knightswood mineral depot previously discussed on another thread.

The lines are "Anniesland, Hunters Siding to Knightswood Mineral Depot" closed 7th June 1965 and (KNIGHTSWOOD SOUTH JN) to Baird's Siding, closed 1st October 1971. I do know the location of Knightswood Mineral Depot and Knightswood South Junction, but if anyone can help me with the location of Hunters Siding and Bairds Siding I would appreciate it. I think that Bairds was Temple Iron Works on Crow Road, but Hunters completely eludes me.

Any help would be appreciated, here are the maps so far, I hope the file sizes are not too big, they are bitmaps as I want to keep updating them.




North East:-

South East:-

South West:-

North West:-


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried fix your links there but the forum wont accept them because they are bmp images. Perhaps you could save a copy of them as jpg for us?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here they are as Jpegs






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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

 Good stuff Alycidon,must've taken ages.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maps updated, links as per originals..

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alycidon,

Obscure question of the week!

What exactly happened at Cathcart Station/ West Junction on 30th September, 1960?


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