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| james73 |
Glasgow Railways Discussion ThreadAll comments about this section in here folks.
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| cybers |
Well that is a good start James.
I kinda rebelled from all things Choo-Choo as it was my dad's career path not mine. Now he is gone i seem to have developed an urge to see and do more about rail... I must confess i took the train to his funeral in hartlepool and i think it was the first train ride in over 20 years. I was actually surprised how different, clean and comfortable it is to travel by train now .... Well till you get to Newcastle and get on them little shuttle trains out to hartlepool... Jesus thought i was gonna get a set of pedals on that bugger... Looking forward to what that railway thread will develop into well before they introduce anti terror measures it should be good... |
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| HollowHorn |
Bob Dylan outside Queen St. Station in 1966:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yDkBfJP2bM |
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| cybers |
Smashing find ... Reminded me of Neil Young busking in the central video but the buggers at YouTube have take it off. |
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| sputnik |
he was just a young pup when wee matt mcginn was on the same bill as him at carneggie hall new york. | ||
| neilmc |
Due to bad editing/continuity, or just plain ignorance, the Martin Scorsese documentary that this clip came from gave the false impression that it was Manchester. | ||
| Alycidon |
Terminus to TerminusHere is a challenge to all, not just railway enthusiasts, inspired by a recent post on another thread.Find the shortest route from each of the four Glasgow Terminus stations to the other without reversing. All lines closed/open can be used So we are looking for the route from Glasgow Central to Glasgow St Enoch, Queen Street etc. The easiest one is from Central to Buchanan Street, leaving Central by the main line to Rutherglen, then by Rutherglen West Junction, Strathclyde Junction, Dalmarnock (High Level), Parkhead Forge, Robroyston West Junction, Milton Junction and into Buchanan St. By my reckoning this is the only one that can be done without leaving he city boundaries!! Jim |
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| james73 |
Good idea. 
I can think of another one that doesn't leave the city boundaries. St Enoch to Queen Street. St Enoch platfoms 1 or 2, northeast to Saltmarket Junction(?), up through Belgrove, turn left up the Springburn branch, through Springburn and then turn left along the Cowlairs Chord into QS High Level. James H |
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| Alex Glass |
Now wouldn't it be good to use the aerial photos to show how this can be done.
If the coverage allows 
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| LowLight |
Although I haven't got a clue where all the trains go this would be great in Google Earth. | ||
| james73 |
James H |
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| cybers |
Great map James...
I see it still has the Dalton Branches in Glenpark St I sat in there as a kid and watched them cut up more than one old loco. 
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| Fjord |
Bridgeton Railway DepotBridgeton Carriage and Servicing Depot c.1960's opened 1892 closed 1987 along with Hyndland Depot with all work transferred to Yoker Depot.
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| Doog Doog |
railway discussionI'll need to have a delve through the ol' photos,somewhere there is some photos taken at hyndland depot just before it shut. |
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| cybers |
Re: Bridgeton Railway Depot
Left from there on more than one occasion... 
Played there as a kid in and out of the carriages sneaking through them when the BTP appeared trying to outsmart them with a bloody good game of hide and seek. Back in the days when you were more likely to leave with a good boot in the arse and a strong lecture on the nature of electricity than a court date. I passed this not long ago (1st time in 20 odd years) i needed a part for my heating from a place in Orr st, bloody housing on the site. We also played in the signal box that was there too when it was taken offline.... Still had Leccy and heating and a great wee place to take a burd
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| jonno22 |
superb work guys. James - great map. I will be taking photographs of the abandoned and disused railways / tunnels within Glasgow (I have already) but will be getting new collections of photographs over the next few months. I will keep you all informed though of when I visit these fascinating 'what once were' railway lines / tunnels
Best Regards Jonathan McGurk Railway and Freelance Photographer www.jonathanmcgurk.fotopic.net |
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| Stuball |
Hi jono and welcome to urbanglasgow
If you are going to visit any disused tunnels, its not the best idea to make it public knowledge my friend
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| jonno22 |
Ok Doke. I get the idea Stuball;)
Best Regards Jonathan McGurk Railway and Freelance Photographer www.jonathanmcgurk.fotopic.net |
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| cybers |
But a few well placed PM's can get some company....
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| rotten milk |
back to the OP
how about queen st., round the cowlairs chord, past springburn station, past sighthill goods, to join up to the caley line through st. rollox (pass) into buchanan st.? or a 5 min. walk up the hill instead?
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| james73 |
That would involve reversing, which was specified as a no-no.
James H |
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| rotten milk |
no, i thought there was a line from sighthill jn, avoiding the goods depot , then west at st. rollox - i take it, then, that all the lines went into the goods depot?
EDIT: from the 1894 OS map 
but zooming in: 
it's like the line i need was proposed, but not actually built - the lines are there, but not 'connected' to the main-line on the map. maybe to avoid facing connections on the main-line? OR was it a link that existed, but has been taken out of use? |
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| james73 |
I don't think those lines were ever built. I may be wrong, but I've never seen those lines on any other map, and I never saw any evidence of those lines when I explored the site many moons ago. James H |
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| Alycidon |
Found the answer to this conundrum - in 1871 the Caledonian Railway opened a signal box at "Sighthill West Junction", but the book "The Register of Scottish Signalboxes" by Alexander and Nichol, states that the line was never used. My theory is that the Caledonian and the N.B. entered into an agreement to build a link line to allow N.B trains the use of Buchanan Street during the reconstruction of Queen Street, which took place between 1879 and 1888, but then fell out over working arrangements. The "Junction that never was" closed in 1934, being replaced by an Intermediate Block Signal Arrangement.
Jim |
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| Alycidon |
Hi all - I have started a project to map the closed railways in Glasgow, using as a basis a table found on the web and thankfully saved as an Excel spreadsheet as the site is no longer active. There are several lines listed that are somewhat obscure, as they refer to mineral or industrial lines. Two examples are as follows, both are in the Anniesland/Knightswood area on the branch to Knightswood mineral depot previously discussed on another thread.
The lines are "Anniesland, Hunters Siding to Knightswood Mineral Depot" closed 7th June 1965 and (KNIGHTSWOOD SOUTH JN) to Baird's Siding, closed 1st October 1971. I do know the location of Knightswood Mineral Depot and Knightswood South Junction, but if anyone can help me with the location of Hunters Siding and Bairds Siding I would appreciate it. I think that Bairds was Temple Iron Works on Crow Road, but Hunters completely eludes me. Any help would be appreciated, here are the maps so far, I hope the file sizes are not too big, they are bitmaps as I want to keep updating them. North East:- 
South East:- 
South West:- 
North West:- 
Mod Edit (Fixed Photo Links) |
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| Stuball |
I tried fix your links there but the forum wont accept them because they are bmp images. Perhaps you could save a copy of them as jpg for us? | ||
| Alycidon |
Here they are as Jpegs
JBH |
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| Doog Doog |
Good stuff Alycidon,must've taken ages.
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| Alycidon |
Maps updated, links as per originals..
Jim |
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| AbsoluteHerbert |
Alycidon,
Obscure question of the week! What exactly happened at Cathcart Station/ West Junction on 30th September, 1960? |
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| james73 |
I would hazard a guess the layout was remodelled to allow trains from the circle to head towards Newton. 
James H |
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| AbsoluteHerbert |
Alycidon,
What was going on either side of Eglinton Street between February and June 1966? Your maps are creating so many questions!! |
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| Alycidon |
James H has got Cathcart spot on, I couldn't upload or see photographs at work and made a similar diagram - not needed now!!
As for Eglinton Street I am not sure what AbsoluteHerbert is referring to, could you add some detail to your question - I am more than happy to answer questions, I have a few myself - there are some gaps in the dates, most particularly the closure date for High Street Goods Station, the nearest I have is 1982, but if anyone knows the date I would appreciate the info, there are also a few industrial sidings referred to in the original spreadsheet I am working from, some of these I have had to make an educated guess at their position, these are Banner Oil Siding - assumed to be close to Inchbelly bridge between St Rollox Works and Port Dundas. Fleming Bros siding - same area Near Anniesland I am still not sure that I have got Hunters Siding and Bairds Siding correct. Still a lot to do but I will plod on!! Jim [/img] |
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| cybers |
82 would tie in about right for the closure of the goods yard at High St and Duke St.
Police caution and a fit in my erse in 2nd year for playing in the yard and building with 2 pals as they were clearing it. Eyes still water when i think about that big doc martin |
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| Doog Doog |
Alycidon, a bit more info for you.
There was carriage sidings and a small goods yard on the down side of Crookston station which closed in the early 60's,was still in use in 1961. There were 4 goods yards on the Cathcart Circle: Mount Florida......... closed 23/1/61 Cathcart (original station)........ closed 5/4/65 Pollokshaws East........ closed 1/6/59 Maxwell Park......... closed 6/1/64 On the Paisley map,I think Chain Rd. goods is too far up.Should be before Meikleriggs goods. Its in part of the area I work in and one of the landscaped areas was once part of the line from Ferguslie to Stanely,the retaining wall of a loading bay is still there,if overgrown.Meikleriggs goods was where a glue factory was once located and the route is now obliterated by housing. The bridge that Ferguslie station sat on was still in situ until about 1985 when it was demolished and landscaped.Got a photo of Ferguslie station in the late 50s which I'll scan and post with some other stuff when I get pics taken. |
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| cybers |
Now i spent a few hours in the local library this morning researching some local history when i came across a mentioning of a local toff having a ride on Hamilton's Ariel Railway at Kelvingrove.
This is the first time i have heard of it so have tried to dig a little deeper... I have a photo of the thing but alas no 64bit drivers for my scanner so i will need to wait till i get to my mothers. In another cutting in the library there was mention of a 1 mile mountain railway in a Glasgow park and was wondering if they might be one and the same. 
More digging on this one it think. |
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| Doog Doog |
Just to saythe pics for the above will be in the wannabe glasgow section. |
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| chateau du lait |
Fascinating map Alycidon and worth of a comment for my first post  I wonder if you could tell me roughly where the track branched off to go to the Aitkenhead Colliery? Thats my neck of the woods, I heard there was an old mine up where the ASDA is on Prospecthill Road but I cant work out how the track would have got there from the Cathcart Circle.
Keep up the good work! |
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| norrie |
turkish locomotivesNot sure if this the correct thread but are any of you interested in seeing Turkish steam locos, take by me iin the 90sThey are all static, at an open air museum near Kussadassi Bye for now, norrie |
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| Stuball |
Aye, stick them in this thread http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/about71.html | ||
| norrie |
turkish locosHi Stuball, Ok I will add that to the to do listBye for now, norrie |
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| Alycidon |
Hi CDL - the exact position of the junction was exactly where Kings Park Station is now, the line curved sharply to the north and followed exactly the line of Aitkenhead road, the formation being to the immediate west of the road. The mine was at the side of the road opposite Hampden Park. Go to the old-maps.co.uk website, type in Cathcart in the search engine and find the 1915 1:10,560 map, you will see the junction on this, you can then switch to the 1938 map and see how the housing development obliterated any trace of the formation. This site has been relaxed recently, at one time you could only pan and zoom on the oldest map (1864), but I notice now that you can pan and zoom on any 1:10,560 map which is a great help, this feature is still unfortunately locked on the 1:2,500 maps which is a real bummer. |
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| chateau du lait |
Thanks for that
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